“Talking TV with Ryan and Ryan”: The state of TV criticism

Mo Ryan and I were thrilled to be joined by two of our favorite TV critics, Noel Murray and Myles McNutt, in this hour-plus look at the state of TV criticism. We look at the pros/cons of weekly episode reviews, the nature of the relationship between author/reader, and suggest ways in which the genre can improve going forth. (Inspiration for the podcast’s timing, if not total content can be found here.)

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  1. Posted February 17, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Interesting conversation! Thanks for the great questions.

    I was so glad to have you and the others guide me through my journey with Lost. I really miss that, actually. That will always be a big part of my experience with the show.

  2. Rob
    Posted February 17, 2011 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Enjoyed this a lot, some very good points raised.
    One thing I’d be interested in your take on – do the TV pages (especially the ones that publish and comment on ratings) help or hurt a show? I keep thinking that when sites keep saying such and such a show is likely to be cancelled it turns people off. Seems especially true with new shows. Why bother watching etc … Any ideas? Or in this DVR/streaming age is at all moot anyway?

  3. Posted February 18, 2011 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    Sup Ryan brothers? Great stuff here, as always. Many interesting thoughts! One in particular inspired me to try write an article about how people (me included) many times prefer watch “not so great” shows because people around them talk about it instead look for the masterpieces that no one talks anymore. Its like one of you guys said, sites like yours are about communities (and some times cults). People go there to view and share opinions. Of course that critics have an more important role starting the discussions but weekly reviews are basically just an excuse, so we can do what we love: talk about TV. Maybe I’m sounding like an arrogant prick… well, its not that. I admire all of you guys and try to read your reviews as much I can take but the real stars here are the shows. And should always be the shows.

    Sorry for anything and writing so much, like I said, you guys inspired me =D

  4. Posted February 21, 2011 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    I really enjoyed this podcast. This whole discussion was very interesting to me and my work and I found the podcast to be very interesting. You all are very smart people and I loved listening to you discuss criticism.