“Talking TV with Ryan and Ryan” talk “Torchwood”, plus listener questions

Mo Ryan and I are back, this time on Mo’s birthday! We had a jam-packed ep, with talk about 3 debuting shows, reaction to an unfortunate trend in online TV conversation, and a special birthday question from me to Mo.

This week’s music: Love And Rockets’ “So Alive”; Prince’s “I Would Die 4 U”

Time stamps…

“Torchwood”: 0:00 – 38:12

Peter and next season of “Fringe”: 38:12 – 45:14

Comic-Con Hosting Plans?: 45:14 – 48:48

Series we’d like to see: 48:48 – 58:35

Rapid Fire Round: 58:35 – End

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  1. Posted July 7, 2011 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    I too unashamedly enjoy Wipeout. Am I a bad person for feeling schadenfreude when contestants wipe out? I hope not.

  2. OldDarth
    Posted July 8, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    In the spirit of your previous podcast about the tone of a reply to reviews allow me to offer my apologies for my response to your Fringe review of the S3 finale.

    We still do not agree on the finale. And that is fine. I found and find it brilliant, even more so on subsequent rewatches and the emotional connections have only strengthened too. It sets up so many possibilities for next season that continue to boggle the mind.

    The tone of my response back then was fueled by what I perceived as a superior piece of work and the fact that your reviews often mirror mine.

    As to how long the Peter Paradox will be sustained next season – my guess is that it will parallel the length of the Olivia switch story from Season 3. My spec would be 4 episodes to build up what life has been and is like for Olivia, Walter et al without Peter.

    Then the realization by them that something/one is missing with the next 4 episodes dealing with re-integrating Peter back into the storyline. It is likely that, like the revelation that the two universes need each other to co-exist, Peter’s presence will be found to be necessary as well. Like you and Mo, I cannot see this being carried throughout the entire season.

    Once again, my apologies for the poor tone of my response to your Fringe S3 finale review.



  3. rhys
    Posted July 10, 2011 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    I may have posted this before, but I don’t remember and I want to make sure I post my theory so it is on record.

    My theory about Peter is that it’s not that he has entirely ceased to exist – it’s that the past was changed and now Peter will not have ever been abducted by our Walter.

    When Peter initially touched the machine it knocked him out and he went into a mini-coma. When he woke up from the mini-coma he had the cab driver drive him to Manhattan – as if he lived there. Then he tried to find his father at the Statue of Liberty, saying he was the Secretary of Defense, as if he thought he was in the alternate world and that Walternate was the only dad he ever knew.

    Peter eventually snaps out of it – and his lapse is never mentioned again, but I think it was a hint that his mind had slipped into an alternate timeline where had never been abducted and instead been raised as Walternate’s son.

    What I believe the Observers are saying is that everyone will forget how Peter was involved in Fringe division and the uniting of the two worlds and the people from our world will have never met him.

    I think it some how ties into the fact that it was the Observers that caused Walter to abduct Peter. An Observer appeared when Walternate was creating the cure for Peter’s illness – which distracted him from seeing the cure. So Walter had to go over to save Peter’s life. However, if the Observer hadn’t appeared – Walternate would have saved him and Walter would never had had to go over. So perhaps what happens in the season finale somehow resets that mistake.

    Just a theory.