“Talking TV with Ryan and Ryan” says goodbye to “Friday Night Lights”

Mo Ryan and I are back, this time with an 80-minute ode to one of the great television shows of the recent past, and perhaps of all time. We look at each season, teasing out the show’s various themes and ponder its overall impact on the TV landscape. We don’t cry. Much.

This week’s music: The Cure’s “Friday, I’m In Love”‘ Tom Petty’s “Time to Move On”

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  1. Jesse Jackson
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    It is always fun to listen to the “two Ryans” talk about TV. It was especially enjoyable to hear the discussion on one of my favorite TV shows. Lots of great points made but my favorite line was your line saying that you were shocked to learn at the start of season 4 that we (the viewers) have been cheering for the New York Yankees of Texas High School Football. The Dillion Panthers were the evil empire. A great point!

  2. Tausif Khan
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    I have a big problem with critics referring to “Landry’s Killing Spree Storyline” as “Landry’s Killing Spree Storyline” because to me it is none of those things.

    1)To me it is the “Tyra Collette Rape Storyline” because the most graphic and important event occurring in that scene is that a young girl was raped. If the show failed in any way, it was not to highlight enough how Tyra’s experienced the traumatic event and its resulting aftermath within the visual story telling of the show.

    2) Landry did not commit murder. He did not have a premeditated intention to kill this person (just compare his reaction to that of Reyes against Matt and Landry’s friend in the first season). It is clear his intention was to protect Tyra because he asks about her condition to make sure she is alright. At best Landry committed a form of manslaughter in which some sort of malice may have manifested from Landry after he saw what had happened to Tyra. Most of his actions in the scene seem scared and hoping to keep everyone safe. Because his father was the chief of police any wrong doing that Landry was involved with would either get back to his father or impact his father negatively. He was trying to do the best in a bad situation.

    3)Landry did not go on a killing spree. He only tried to cover up the one horrible situation he had accidentally become a part of after the man who raped Tyra died.

    4)For me the storyline was about the character interactions between Landry, Tyra and Landry’s father where Tyra is reminded once again (as Mama Williams told her in the first season) that she will bring nothing but trouble. This again is a comment on Tyra’s reputation affected by her gender and the way people perceive her would result in their judging of whether she is worthy of their sympathy or not (it must be pointed out that no matter her reputation what happened to her is something no one should encounter). It was a terrible circumstance for all of them to work through.

    5) It is horrible that this storyline did not do more to increase discussions of sexual violence. In the most recent podcast before the FNL finale Alan Sepinwall mentioned that he went back and looked at Tyra character highlights and said as a comment pertaining to the rape scene that there are just some people who need to be killed.

    When I was in college I took a film class and we watched Thelma and Louise. The professor mentioned that this film was criticized for the amount of violence it depicted (and the implication was that this violence was a product of raging feminists angry about sexual assaults perpetrated by men). The professor noted that while there are large explosions there is not a single dead body left in their wake. My point in bringing this anecdote up is that the impression that Landry’s scared protective reaction to Tyra’s rape lead to an exagerated responses by critics and buried the actual issue the actual storyline. A teenager, Tyra Collette was raped, and a friend did the best he could to prevent the attacker from repeating his crime. The burying of the actual storyline by exagerating the impression was for me problematic as I did not come to the show until season 4.